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joe3273 · Oct 22, 2007, 03:27 PM // 15:27

Will this Comp be good for running GW/GW2 or any other game.
I plan on jacking the ram up to 3 gigs cruical says it will take upto 8 gigs of ram (WOW)
Adding my own sound card.
and putting in a dedicated Power supply(Thermaltake 250 watt SLI ready) for video card like i have now.
Please comment or suggest Ideas..

TY in advance.

1014104R Gateway DX430S $899.99
3403778 Genuine Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit) GW CTO
3403590 Microsoft Win Vista Home Premium Media (32-bit) (US/UK/CA)
3403926 McAfee 90-day Internet Security Suite CompSub v. 1.2 (Vista)
3408645R Bezel for Gershwin with Black Polish
3408679R Core 2 Duo E6420 (2.13GHz, 1066MHz FSB 4MB cache,non-HT)
3402562R 1024MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2-512)
3408324R Systemboard w Intel G965 uATX, w/ 1394, 10/100
3402767R 250GB 7200rpm Serial ATA II/300 hard drive w/ 8MB cache
3403708 DWL Cyberlink Power2Go
3408644R Gateway Gershwin 5-Bay uATX MCR, 1394
3401883R 400-Watt Power Supply BTX Non-PFC
3403294 No 19" Widescreen Monitor Selected
3408865R NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT 512MB FH DDR3 2xDVI S-Vid
3408877R No TV Tuner Card Selected
3408368R Gateway 104+ Elite Keyboard (for Vista)
3403398R Soft-touch USB Optical Wheel Mouse (Tungsten)
3400298R Gateway 2.0 Speakers
3403429R 56K PCI Data/Fax Modem UniBryce
3403859 Intel Viiv Technology Driver v. 1.6 (for Vista)
3404091 DWL MS Windows Vista WAU (32-bit)
1535429 Microsoft Works 8.5
1533649 C-ValuePln 1yr Parts/Labor/No Onsite/TechSup-DTMid1Yr
1524518 CALL 800-846-2080 TO PURCHASE YOUR EXTENDED PC SERVICE PLAN
3408378R 16X Super MFDVDRW/DVD-RAM+/-R/CD-R/RW Double Layer Writer
7515212 Microsoft Works 8.5 + media
9527336 No Onsite Service
9527339 1yr Factory Labor
9527342 1yr Parts Exch/Replace
9529979 C_1yr_Tech_DT - 1Yr Std.
9529980 C_1yr_Value_DTMid1Yr

Subtotal: $899.99
Tax: $64.29
Shipping & Handling: $89.00

Order Total: $1,053.28

I am replacing a 2 year old Dell XPS 400 with Core Duo Technology with a Asus Geforce 7950GT 512mb vid card, with 3 gigs of ram and 2.8 GHz processor...

Would like feed back.

Tachyon · Oct 22, 2007, 05:46 PM // 17:46

Personally I'd stay well away from prebuilt systems like Gateway, Alienware, eMachines and Dell et al! Nothing but cheap tat at an expensive price.

If you're capable of adding a secondary PSU to power your Graphics Card then you're more than capable of building your own system.

zamial · Oct 22, 2007, 07:28 PM // 19:28

The vista 32 bit OS is a waste of cash get the 64 bit or Xp, with 64 bit chips.

iridescentfyre · Oct 22, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

I don't personally recommend 64-bit Vista, in my experience 32-bit has enough driver issues. However, if you actually plan to ever use more than 4GB of RAM, you'll need a 64-bit operating system. 32-bit OS's can only see up to 4GB.

In all honesty, the system you're replacing is pathetically overpowered for Guild Wars. For GW2, who knows... by the time it comes out DX10 graphics may be commonplace enough that it will use them. I'd be extremely surprised if your old system wouldn't still run it acceptably, though.

I don't know what other games you plan on playing, but if GW is all you plan to use it for, use what you've already got until GW2 gets closer. By then better hardware will be out, anyway.

lordpwn · Oct 22, 2007, 09:52 PM // 21:52

The 8600GT is a bad choice imho. It may be from the latest GeForce series but it's still just a midrange card, and in a year or two when there actually are some DX10 games worth caring about the card will be too outdated to run them at decent settings. That old 7950GT of yours is probably faster, too.

If you're planning on getting more RAM paying for the 2x512 MB [email protected] MHz sticks is a bit of a waste of money - Core 2 Duo's are already somewhat limited by memory bandwidth in heavy multiprocessing applications, and the system will have to use the RAM at the speed of the slowest RAM module, so you'll have to get rid of the junk to install better stuff.

Also, Windows Vista is still pretty crappy unless your definition of "computer use" is e-mail, single-tabbed web browsing and some instant messaging. I tried the professional edition once, spent hours trying to get it to perform as well as Windows XP, and won't touch it again until there's plenty of guides on the web for removing all the useless crap and they get a service pack or two out to fix the bugs (aka "features").

iridescentfyre · Oct 22, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordpwn

Also, Windows Vista is still pretty crappy unless your definition of "computer use" is e-mail, single-tabbed web browsing and some instant messaging.

To the best of my knowledge, there is no single-tabbed browser that even runs on Windows Vista. If you've managed to get one to run, I'd like to know what it was... The default browser is IE7 which, as much as it sucks, at least has tabbed browsing on par with Firefox.

In my experience, the only problem Vista has is drivers... and that's nvidia, ATI, and Creative's problem. Not Microsoft. By the way, there is no Windows Vista "Professional."

lordpwn · Oct 22, 2007, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

To the best of my knowledge, there is no single-tabbed browser that even runs on Windows Vista. If you've managed to get one to run, I'd like to know what it was... The default browser is IE7 which, as much as it sucks, at least has tabbed browsing on par with Firefox.

Yes, but the people who don't care about Vista's inefficient use of a computer's resources are often the same people who don't know or care about tabs, hence "single-tabbed browsing".

Quote:

Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

In my experience, the only problem Vista has is drivers... and that's nvidia, ATI, and Creative's problem. Not Microsoft. By the way, there is no Windows Vista "Professional."

My mistake, meant the Business edition. Though it's pretty much intended to be the new XP Pro.

LuckyStripe · Oct 22, 2007, 10:32 PM // 22:32

Go with Vista Premium 64-bit. Yeah it’s still buggy but it will be fixed over time. You need 64-bit for 3+ GB of RAM and only Vista can use DX10 features, which is well worth buying vista. Also, future games/apps will be running better on 64-bit instead of 32-bit I’ve herd.

As for the 8600, if you buy that card. Make sure it is Evga and use the Step Up Plan to upgrade it to a 8800GTS or better ASAP.

8 GB of ram is waaaaay over kill. Just buy 2 x 2GB sticks. If u ever need to upgrade just buy another 2GB stick. 4GB will even be more than enough for future game like Crysis. 8GB just isn’t worth it unless you have the money. Also remember DDR3 memory is here but hasn’t proven itself for its price yet. If you buy 8GB, you are going to regret spending so much money to upgrade to that because DDR3 will kick its ass. Oh and, go for RAM that is DDR2 800MHz

That PSU is kind of weak, Thermaltake is a trusted brand; but your PSU is the backbone of your PC, 250 might not cut it if you upgrade your GPU or maybe even RAM.

I really suggest building you own PC instead of buying a pre made PC with a company’s name behind it. You save money and you can over clock or do other things without voiding the warranty.

Use Newegg’s forum if you need to build a PC with an exact price limit.
http://www.eggxpert.com Go to Forums > Products > Computer Building & Upgrades > System Builds
(Be sure to be descriptive on what you want and what your uses will be)

joe3273 · Oct 26, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

Try this one, see what ya think.
Comes from CyberPower

*BASE_PRICE: [+669]
CAS: New! Raidmax Kuroshio Mid-Tower 420W Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel Window (Black Color)
CASUPGRADE: 12in COLD CATHODE NEON LIGHT [+10] (BLUE COLOR)
CS_FAN: Extra Case Cooling Fan [+3] (3 x Fans [+6])
CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6550 CPU @ 2.33GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit
CD: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
FAN: INTEL LGA775 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
HDD: Single Hard Drive (320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core FSB1333) Asus P5N-E nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
OS: Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center 2005 Edition [+104]
POWERSUPPLY: STANDARD CASE POWER SUPPLY + Adding My own ThermalTake Dedicated 250 SLI Certified PSU with 2 6-pin Connectors for the Vid card I'm Installing
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS 24/7 LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: 3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD
TEMP: THERMAL TEMPERATURE LCD DISPLAY WITH 3X FAN CONTROLLER [+12] (BLACK COLOR)
USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USBHD: NONE
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce 7100 GS TurboCache supporting 256MB PCI-E [-50] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Replacing it with PNY Geforce 8800GTX 765MB PCIe card
Just something to get it up and running.

Final Price 734.00

Would Your Feedback on this one since you guys hate Gateway or any other comp manufacturer.
Thought maybe this would be good.